Freeney is a monster, and assuming nothing happens to him injury-wise, I truly believe he is going to be a HOF defensive end and will be remember as one of the greats. I said it before on this board somewhere, but his spin move is one of the GREATEST pass rush moves of ALL-TIME. I truly believe 10 years from now Freeney is going to be mentioned with guys like Deacon Jones, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, etc.
Now that's not to say Freeney is anywhere close to being a complete DE. He's a pass rusher that has to line up in space and use his speed and quickness. He's not a guy that is going to use great hand technique to outmaneuver a OT. He can't handle very well at the point of attack. But if we're talking about pure pass rushing, Freeney may soon rank as the greatest "speed" pass rusher of all-time.
But this thread starting about Arrington and Schaub. I would like to point out a few things:
1. I too would not advocate a trade for Arrington, for 2 main reasons:
a) he's injury prone
b) he's very expensive
Especially when you consider just a year ago he got that huge extension. And the truth of the matter is Arrington really hasn't been the awe-inspiring linebacker for a few years now.
Also there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY a team would give up a #1 for Matt Schaub. Just push it from your heads right now. A team using a #1 on a backup QB that himself was not a Top 20 pick is long gone, and died with Rob Johnson. It won't happen again. Teams aren't that desperate for "veteran" QBs. Logic would state it would be a smarter investment to use a #1 on a more proven commodity like Schaub than someone like J.P. Losman. But the fact of the matter is Matt Schaub does not have FIRST ROUND POTENTIAL. And that's the key. He's proven recently that his arm strength is better than most people thought, and he is athletic enough to escape the pocket, but he's no Alex Smith. And basically, teams are looking to use #1s on guys with Smith's potential. Schaub can become a quality starter, but he's not going to be viewed as a future Pro Bowler.
The truth of the matter is that the QB market is not as strong as you think. If you look around the league, there may be a dozen or so teams that are looking for a young starter to develop for the future, but not too many of them are in situations where Schaub looks like a good fit.
Arizona and Denver could both be looking for starters in the near future, but both have young backups (McCown and Van Pelt) that offer more arm strength and just as much mobility if not more than Schaub. So Schaub doesn't bring anything more to the table.
A lot of other teams like Baltimore, Cleveland, Chicago all have a good shot at getting someone like Leinart this upcoming April. Miami won't touch another QB unless it's a high caliber guy like Leinart.
Honestly, I see only Detroit, Kansas City, and the Jets as potential destinations for Schaub. The Lions run a very similar offense. But I don't think Mooch is going to take Schaub over both Harrington and Garcia. Schaub is similar to both Trent Green and Pennington, so those could work. But how much would either team give up for him?
I see a 3rd round pick, exactly what Schaub is worth. If we're lucky, we'd be able to get an additional late round pick (6th or 7th?), but that's about all. Schaub is 0-2 as a starter, lost another gam that he practically started, and his lone "save" was in a game which the Falcons had already built a substantial lead. He doesn't have the body of work that would merit a very high draft pick. In fact, he'd probably need to pull out a win or two down the stretch for this team in order to merit a 3rd round pick.
Schaub isn't the only promising young QB out there. What about Mike McMahon, David Garrard, Dave Ragone, Seneca Wallace, and Drew Henson? Not to mention the potential rookies next April? Drew Brees, Tim Rattay, Kitna, Kurt Warner, Jeff Garcia are veterans that will probably be acquirable this off-season. Teams definitely have options, and Matt Schaub is probably not very highly ranked for many teams.
And at this point, this team would be stupid to trade Schaub until they got a backup as good or better.
"Vincere scis, Hannibal, victoria uti nescis" -- Maharbal, 216 B.C.E.