Where's the big difference is offense from 2012-2013.... Breeze through 5 more Tds in 2012 and 7 more interceptions. I think they were in the same formation, that's a very small difference. Yardages were very close too. Sure bad coaches can line up everyone up in places to fail. Good Qbs make all Coaches look good. Some coaches can move on and win, and so can some Qbs....
Its hard to hold a good qb back!!
Funny you could basically insert Matt Ryan instead of "Breeze" in that statement, and it would be the same…
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offense from 2012-2013…Matty through [sic]
6 more TDs in 2013 and 3 less interceptions. I think they were in the same formation, that's a very small difference.Yardages were very close too.
The biggest reason why stats supposedly lie is people do what you just did Cyril and look at raw numbers and assume things.
Brees is the poster child for why coaching matters. Look at him in San Diego vs. New Orleans with Sean Payton vs. New Orleans without Sean Payton. Was Brees a good QB without Payton? Yes. But with Peyton he was an exceptional QB at times (his 2009 and 2011 seasons were arguably 2 of the 20 best seasons a QB has had ever). And when you consider degree of difficulty (evidence from the ridiculous number of attempts), those were examples of a QB "carrying" a team. Brees 2004 was an excellent season as well in SD, but that was a Charger team that ran the ball 53% of the time and thrived thanks in large part to the breakout year of Antonio Gates.
Obviously the problems of the Saints in 2012 went beyond just Drew Brees. But basically when a QB goes from all-time great which Brees was in 2011 to "mundane" Matt Ryan levels in 2012, your team is going to take a hit. This past year in 2013, Brees production rose back up to somewhere in between. That makes a significant difference. It's really no different than a team that goes from a very bad QB to a slightly above average QB.
But the point is that you cannot have those types of seasons without coaching coming into the mix. Good players will generally be good regardless of the coaching of the team, but good players cannot be great without a significant boost from coaching.