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Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Pudge » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:46 pm

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason ... -week-away

Trade talk heating up around league with draft a week away
April 18, 2013 3:03 pm ET



With the draft a week away, trade action will continue to pick up, and plenty of scenarios are under review.

The Dolphins are exploring a trade for Chiefs tackle Branden Albert, sources say; the Jets are still considering a move for Saints restricted free-agent running back Chris Ivory; and the Bucs are shopping running back LeGarrette Blount.

Oh, and Tampa Bay is still well-positioned to deal its first-round pick and more to the Jets for corner Darrelle Revis. Many teams, when doing their mock drafts, are doing versions with the Jets already holding that 13th pick, given the ongoing Revis talks.

If New York ends up getting Tampa Bay's pick to go with its ninth overall pick, some execs believe the team could end up taking two West Virginia offensive stars -- quarterback Geno Smith and receiver Tavon Austin, if they were available at those spots.

Several teams are open to dropping down, including the Raiders (third overall) and the Lions (fifth overall), and, as Sports Illustrated reported, the Falcons are considering making a massive leap to the top of the first round, similar to jumping up to select Julio Jones a few years ago. The Lions, according to sources, are particularly open to falling back into the 20s. At this point, Atlanta seems to be targeting teams in the top five, sources said.

The Falcons are high on pass rusher Dion Jordan from Oregon and cornerback Dee Milliner from Alabama, sources said. Both are seen as the best at their position by many -- with a considerable drop-off -- and both are acute needs for the Falcons, who believe they are on the cusp of a title and are operating as if they are a player or two away (as the Jones trade evidenced).


The Falcons are also keeping cap room available and budget for the eventual extension coming for quarterback Matt Ryan. But under this new CBA, even top-five picks are huge bargains if they pan out. Atlanta cut starting right tackle Tyson Clabo recently to help create more room, and Clabo is an option for Miami, if it doesn't land Albert, and Dallas is also exploring tackle options as well, with Doug Free still a potential cut there.

Tackle Eric Winston is seeking around $4 million a year and has been unable to land that, though teams are monitoring him as well.

Overall, teams are bracing for a host of trades during the draft, which can obviously cause mock projections to change greatly as the order of teams selecting changes on the fly.
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Re: Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby dirtybirdnw » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:29 pm

I think it makes even more sense for the Falcons to trade up this year than it did when they moved up for Jones. The Falcons are in a win it now situation with TG coming back and the Falcons trading a old Abraham for a slightly less old Osi Umenyiora.

Drafting a player that could come in and have immediate impact as a starter vs. someone that may take a couple seasons to develop would be immensely beneficial in our current situation.

Of course both players are about as hot as you could get in pre-draft hype. I'd guess we would need to get north of the 8th pick to get either. That could be spendy... But if it only costs the 30th, next year's 1st round pick and a 2nd & 4th round pick like last time it would be worth it in my book.

Ideally the Falcons 1st rounder next year is 32nd overall anyways. If it gets us the top pass rusher or defensive back in the draft; I'm game.
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Re: Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby RobertAP » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:52 pm

Trading into the top 5 would cost us our first and 2nd round picks both this year and next year. Do we really want to do that?

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Re: Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby starley657 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:42 pm

I've read Jordan was more of a 3-4 outside linebacker than a 4-3 defensive end. Do you really think he could be who we are after? Who in the top 5 is worth it? Gonna be an interesting draft.

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Re: Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby Pudge » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:22 am

Jordan. He is unique in the sense that his flexibility/"urgent athleticism" is very unique for a 6-6/250 pass rusher.

IMO, the issue with Jordan is that I'm not sure he's a polished pass rusher. He has the first step to be very dangerous off the edge, but from what I've seen he's not a polished pass rusher, that basically is a one-note speed rusher. With his speed that isn't a terrible thing to be. If he can polish that up, he definitely has the potential to be a double-digit sack artist every year.

I think Jordan's baseline is Kamerion Wimbley. Meaning he's a good pass rusher but rarely a dominant one. Wimbley was also a sick athlete, but he was not as natural in coverage as Jordan is. Jordan's coverage potential is enough that you could put him on guys like Jimmy Graham in the future. His upside is Aldon Smith in terms of his ability to come off the edge and rush the QB.
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Re: Where there's smoke, there's fire

Postby fun gus » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:15 pm

Dee Milliner - DB - Player
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Falcons are "high" on Oregon DE/LB Dion Jordan and Alabama CB Dee Milliner as they attempt to trade up in the draft.
Jordan is a less realistic target -- he's a surefire top-four selection -- but Milliner definitely would make sense at a major need position in Atlanta. GM Thomas Dimitroff is believed to be targeting a large first-round trade up, potentially into the top five or ten picks. We suspect Milliner is the player he wants.
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Source: CBS Sports Apr 19 - 1:49 PM

Matt Ryan - QB - Falcons
The Falcons will put Matt Ryan's forthcoming extension on hold until after the draft.
Talks will be shelved for "a few weeks," giving GM Thomas Dimitroff time to not only utilize his 11 draft picks but sign undrafted free agents and gauge the post-draft free agent market. Locking up Ryan remains an organizational priority, and undoubtedly will happen at some point before the end of this year.
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