I'm not blaming the coach for missed throws. I'm blaming the coaches for how those passes are missed. There is a subtle difference.
It's analogous to if a student was being tutored and then failed a test. That is not the tutor's fault. He can't make the student answer the questions correctly. But there are certain ways that you can take multiple choice questions that help you. And if the student fails to do those things, then that is the tutor's fault.
Matt Ryan throws a bad deep ball. IMHO, the reason for that is because Matt Ryan is playing it safe by overthrowing his receivers to prevent INTs. Basically, if his guy isn't going to catch it, then nobody is going to catch it. That isn't a terrible thing, but it's contributing to why Matt Ryan was a poor deep passer last year because he's putting more work on himself by essentially having to perfectly place a throw in the bucket for it to be completed. To make those kinds of throws, he needs to showcase perfect touch.
If the Falcons leave Matt Ryan to his own devices, that likely needs to be changed. Newton's 1st law, an object in motion/at rest will not change until it is acted upon by an external force. And it seems to me that you and others are suggesting that facilitating and making that change is entirely on Matt Ryan, and my response to that is if that is the case, then WTF is the point of having coaches?
If they want him to improve, then he needs to do more of throwing it up to allow his guys to make a play. With his receivers like Julio, Roddy, and Gonzo, they have showcased frequently that they are adept at doing this. You don't need to throw the ball with perfect touch when you have a 6-3 monster with a 39-inch vertical.
And when Matt Ryan was at a point in his career where he was a rookie and had received less NFL coaching, he threw this type of deep ball. That was in 2008, when Matt Ryan was one of the Top 3 deep passers in the league in terms of accuracy. And in subsequent years, he's gotten worse with more coaching and been among the worst deep passers in the league. If you are to examine those context clues, then you should conclude that (more) coaching is having some (negative) influence on him. How much influence, is open to debate as are many things.
And IMO, Ryan's playing it safe has something to do with coaching. IMHO, they're so focused on limiting turnovers that they aren't doing a good enough job to get him out of that mentality. For me, the whole game manager, conservative offensive philosophy meshes too well with that to think coaching isn't influencing it to some degree.
Cyril wrote:I'm simply saying the reality that since no one had heard of Coach Smith he must win some playoff games
to move up to the elite status; or be considered one.
So are you saying that having the 4th highest regular season win percentage isn't enough to get him considered an elite coach? It sounds like you're saying that Matt Ryan is held to a higher standard than Mike Smith. Which I agree with, because that's something I've been saying throughout this thread. But it also sounds like you're saying that difference in standard is justified by the fact that Matt Ryan was a Top 3 overall pick, and Mike Smith was not well known when he got the Falcon job. That to me is BS.
I think there is only ONE standard for an NFL head coach: winning championships. If you are not capable of putting your team in position to win one then you should not hold your job. Obviously there aren't 32 guys that can do that, and subsequently there is a relatively high rate of turnover for head coaches.
That's not the same for QBs. Because there are two main categories of starting QBs: 1) franchise and 2) the other guys. Franchise guys are the guys that many people refer to as the guys that you can build your team/offense around for 5-15 years. The other guys basically can keep the seat warm for 1-3 years until you find that guy. Jason Campbell, David Garrard, and Ryan Fitzpatrick are of the latter category. Matt Ryan, Robert Griffin, and Drew Brees IMO are of the former category. I think Matt Ryan is a Top 10 QB, 9th ranked this past year, 7th ranked the year before. And most if not all of the guys ranked ahead of him are going to be in the HOF. And if being right behind HOFers isn't good enough, then I don't get it. And it seems like people seem to be perfectly fine with that being the standard.
And thus why isn't that standard applied to Mike Smith? Why isn't he held up against Bill Belichick, and the obvious disparity between the two, and why aren't we discussing that through 75 posts on a thread? Why isn't he measured against Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, or Andy Reid? And if he's found to be lesser or subpar, just like Ryan is of the Drew Brees and Peyton Manning-caliber QBs, then why aren't we as demanding/critical of Mike Smith not being Belichick or Payton?
And if your answer to that is because he spent 12 years as an assistant at Tennessee Tech, then I say that is a steaming pile of BS. Yeah, that is what should be used to define him and set the standard. No, not the fact that he won and earned a Super Bowl ring during his time in Baltimore as an assistant, or the fact that he was able to coordinate a Top 10 defense practically all 5 years he was the DC in Jacksonville...
If you as a football team have a Top 10 QB much like the Chargers, Giants, Cowboys, and Falcons do, but you fail to win enough games during the regular season to consistently make the playoffs, and/or can't win consistently once you do get to the playoffs, then I think a significant amount of blame shifts from Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, and Matt Ryan to Norv Turner, Tom Coughlin, Jason Garrett/Wade Phillips, and Mike Smith. Now, IMO the Giants have been able to overcome this because IMO Coughlin is a superior coach to Mike Smith, and the Ernie Accorsi legacy that is Jerry Reese is a better run front office than ours.
And I know some will say the fact that Eli Manning is better than Matt Ryan has something to do with it. But the funny thing is that prior to this year, there wasn't anybody on this forum that would have made that claim (because guess what, we've had that discussion before in these forums). And just like the Giants stuck by Eli Manning 3 years ago with a big extension, I think the Falcons should do the same with Matt Ryan. And then Eli wasn't an elite QB, and to this day he is still not an elite QB in my eyes.
"Vincere scis, Hannibal, victoria uti nescis" -- Maharbal, 216 B.C.E.