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 Post subject: Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:38 am 
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BRANDON WEEDEN
6-3.5/221
Oklahoma State Senior
40: 4.90e

PROS:

Has good size and a good strong arm capable of making all of the throws. Has a quick trigger and a good release that puts zip on most of his throws. When he can step into his throws, he can drive the ball downfield. Displays good touch and accuracy on most of this throws. Does a nice job in the endzone on fade throws. Will throw his guys open, allowing his guys to go up and make plays on the ball over the middle or down the sideline. Does a nice job leading his receivers on crosses and slants. Does a nice job showing the ability to audible and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage with hand signals to his wideouts. Able to go to his second read, check down, or throw the ball away when the play is not there. Has some ability as a runner, doing a nice job throwing on the run on the few times he's asked to rollout or bootleg.

CONS:

Is almost exclusively a shotgun quarterback and tends to be a catch and release guy. Doesn't show great footwork when working as a dropback guy. Will fade away on too many throws which leads to passes floating or sailing on him. When you can move him off his spot, he's not that effective. Doesn't do a good job sliding and resetting his feet to throw with accuracy. Can be erratic when handling the blitz, not always showing anticipation or good feel for pressure. Doesn't do a great job stepping up in the pocket to create space when pressure comes off the edge. And if you give him interior pressure, he'll miss too many throws because he can't set his feet. Not a guy that is a top athlete and won't make many plays with his legs. At times seems tentative about getting hit and will rush throws even when he only sees light pressure. Needs to show better touch on his deep passes, tending to put too much air and overthrowing them. Will force too many throws downfield because he trusts his receivers to make a play on the ball. Stares down his first read too often and waits for guys to come open. Does show his trademark anticipation on the deeper throws over the middle.

OVERVIEW:

Weeden started playing baseball with the Yankees out of high school, but after a few years kicking around the minors he decided to go back to football. He sat for two years before getting his chance last year, and stepped right in and looked like he had been running the offense his entire life. He was a very productive player at Oklahoma State. And while he has the tools to be a successful NFL quarterback, he never really wows you with his skills. He's a guy that you often think was aided greatly by having a player the caliber of Blackmon to throw to. His age is also a concern since it'll mean that his playing career could be 5-6 years shorter than many other prospects drafted this year. But at the same time, it's a benefit because he's much more mature and probably better able to handle playing time early than other guys that will need time to develop. He'll turn 29 in October. He is married and has been since 2009. He was a second round pick by the New York Yankees in 2002 and was traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2004. In 65 starts playing A or rookie ball, he combined for a 19-26 record as a pitcher with a 5.02 ERA, 3 saves, and 344 strikeouts in 374 innings pitched.

2011 GAMES WATCHED:

(9/8) vs. Arizona: Short (<10 yds): 36 of 38 (95%), 233 yds (6.1 YPA), 176 YAC, 2 TDS, 0 INTs, 0 poor throws, 0 drops; Deep (>10 yds): 5 of 14 (36%), 138 yds (9.9 YPA), 63 YAC, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 4 poor throws, 1 drop; 2 throwaways
(9/24) at Texas A&M: Short: 36 of 46 (78%), 291 yds (6.3 YPA), 285 YAC, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 3 poor throws, 2 drops; Deep: 10 of 14 (71%), 142 yds (10.1 YPA), 21 YAC, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 2 poor throws, 1 drop
(11/18) at Iowa St: Short: 30 of 39 (77%), 221 yds (5.7 YPA), 199 YAC, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 2 poor throws, 2 drops; Deep: 10 of 17 (59%), 245 yds (14.4 YPA), 53 YAC, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 5 poor throws, 0 drops
(12/3) vs. Oklahoma: Short: 17 of 21 (81%), 72 yds (3.4 YPA), 84 YAC, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 2 poor throws, 0 drops; Deep: 6 of 14 (43%), 132 yds (9.4 YPA), 40 YAC, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 4 poor throws, 1 throaways
(1/2) vs. Stanford*: Short: 7 of 11 (64%), 108 yds (9.8 YPA), 90 YAC, 1 TDs, 0 INTs, 1 poor throw, 1 drop; Deep: 5 of 9 (56%), 125 yds (13.9 YPA), 44 YAC, 1 TDs, 1 INT, 2 poor throws, 1 drop
* only charted 1st half of game

CAREER STATS:

2011: 13 GP/13 GS (12-1 record), 408 comp., 564 att., 72.3%, 4727 yds, 8.4 YPA, 37 TDs, 13 INTs; -102 rush yds, 1 TDs
2010: 13/13 (11-2)-342-511-66.9-4277-8.4-34-13; -68-0
2009: 3/0-15-24-62.5-248-10.3-4-1; 18-0
2008: 1/0-1-3-33.3-8-2.7-0-0; 2-0
2007: redshirt

NFL FORECAST:

Weeden is the type of player that goes on to be a solid but unspectacular NFL passer. He's a guy that should be effective managing an NFL offense, but he's not the type of guy that a team is going to build around. Whether he was 22 or 28 probably wouldn't change that, but the age definitely doesn't help him there. He's probably mature and decent enough to be able to come in right away and be a decent No. 2 for a team, but any team that starts him as a rookie is proabbly going to see a lot of inconsistency. He's got a good arm, is accurate on most of his throws, and is probably a better athlete than most people think at first glance. But he's not a guy that has shown a lot of ability as a dropback passer and when things get muddy, he becomes somewhat average. Because of that reason, sometimes you watch him and you see a player like Blaine Gabbert that despite his physical tools will take too many sacks because of lacking pocket presence. I think that sort of performance is definitely a possibility if you play him too early. I think eventually with two or three years worth of development, he can become a starter similar to Kyle Orton in that he can is good enough to make a team competitive. But he's not going to be a winner, or a guy that elevates the level of the talent around him by a huge degree. Like Orton, I think he's going to struggle a lot when he's under duress. So similarly, he'll need weapons, a ground game, and/or defense to back him up if a team expects to be a playoff team. Orton got a lot of playing time early in his Bears career because of injuries to Rex Grossman, and was effective but not particularly good when he did. I think Weeden can be the same early on. But unfortunately for him by the time his rookie contract is up, he's going to be 33, and teams probably won't be as willing to give him a starting job. But I think he's one of those guys that you bring along to be a backup and maybe he takes over the starting job for a year or two and you're content with that. But I don't see any team trying to build around him.

NFL COMPARISON:

Kyle Orton, Chiefs.

ATL FORECAST:

Weeden is not an ideal candidate, but can come in and compete for the No. 2 job if Chris Redman wasn't re-signed. Ideally, he'd come in, stick as the No. 3 and get a year or so to get comfortable in the system, and then you could probably be confident he could handle the backup role. He's mature, and while he has no real upside to be a starter in Atlanta, he's a similar type of player that Redman was at times, in that he's a guy that you are content with as your starter for a couple of games here and there. He can keep the ship afloat, although I definitely think he'll wind up being a more effective NFL player long-term than Redman was over his career.

VALUE:

Weeden is a solid mid-round pick. For a team that has some question marks at the starting position and needs a guy that can potentially push for time in the first year or two, he might merit a late third round pick. But he's probably better value in the fourth round because the lack of great long-term potential. He's more of a short-term fix that the team that drafts him may not be giving him a second contract.

SKILLS:
1-pathetic, 2-poor, 3-weak, 4-below average, 5-average, 6-above average, 7-good, 8-very good, 9-excellent, 10-elite

Arm Strength: 7.0
Accuracy: 7.0
Mobility: 5.0
Decision Making: 7.0
Mechanics: 6.0
Pocket Awareness: 4.5
Intangibles: 7.0

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