widetrak21 wrote:Thats why I posted that article, cause the author points out the difference of the two.
Where? Other than citing a few positive passing stats, I don't see any compelling argument that suggests Vick and Taylor aren't similar. But anybody that has been a patron of this board for a couple of years now knows that I pay very little attention to college stats. Maybe they indicate Taylor is a more effective college passer, but we aren't talking about who is the more effective college passer, I thought we were talking about how they project to the NFL level.
widetrak21 wrote:Thats like the easiest thing to say, yet only if you're not really watching most of the games.
You could be right, and in the 9 or 10 Virginia Tech games that I didn't watch this past season, maybe Taylor's mechanics, overall play, and pocket presence were very un-Vick like. I doubt that is the case, as it's been my experience that if you've seen a guy play 3 or more games in a single college season, you've probably wound up seeing 80-90% of what the guy has to offer. And if said guy plays pretty much the same way in all those games, then missing the other part of the season becomes even less of an issue.
Now I'm not pretending to think that only seeing 25% of Taylor's body of work makes me some sort of expert.
widetrak21 wrote:Thats called being able to keep the play alive. But thats also gonna make you look like an antsy pocket qb, but they're not necessarilly the same thing. You know Suh played on Neb right, that dude probably collapsed the pocket on 2/3rds of the snaps that game fwiw. Just ask Colt McCoy.
It's not just the Nebraska game. It's all the games I saw, and practically every snap I saw Taylor take this year. I've heard/seen that in the NFL, a QB has on average 2-3 seconds from the time the ball gets into his hands on the snap to making a decision and the time it is released from his hand. When I watch a guy like Colt McCoy, despite his other issues, I saw this ability. When I watch Taylor play, it's 4, 5, 6, or more seconds ticking off the clock before he's making his decisions and throwing.
To me this indicates a critical lack of field vision, that I think was one of the critical aspects of Vick's game that was missing. And when you have a mobile QB that makes up for it with his mobility, then I think the comparisons make a ton of sense. Maybe it's too simplistic and lazy on my part to call him a Vick clone
, but it's hard for me not to notice the glaring similarities in their games when both are athletic QBs, that are most effective when they are able to scramble, waiting for WRs to break off their routes because they are far less effective when you're asking them to be confined to the pocket and deliver the ball quickly and decisively, and both happen to be black kids in Blacksburg that can make plays with their legs, makes it all the more relevant to me.
Now if he shows significant improvement in those areas: anticipation, accuracy, field vision, pocket presence, and not rely on his legs so much, and essentially become a more cerebral QB this season, I will dial down my "criticisms" of Taylor and be more willing to point out the differences between him and Vick than their similarities.
But Taylor IMO is only marginally a better NFL prospect than Jarrett Brown was this past year. And at least Brown had the excuse that he only had 1 year as a starter. Taylor doesn't have such an excuse, and thus any lack of significant progress this season will be inexcusable.
"Vincere scis, Hannibal, victoria uti nescis" -- Maharbal, 216 B.C.E.