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 Post subject: Re: I don't think he'll pass the Falcons Filter
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:04 pm 
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Yeah, it is common sense, but it doesn't indicate that the filter is a farce or imaginary. And just because it's common sense, doesn't mean people always abide by it.

When Rich McKay was GM, they wanted guys that had above average to good athleticism for their position that also were good citizens with our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks for the most part.

Since Dimitroff has taken over, athleticism doesn't seem to be a high priority, in fact several times with early picks, you'd think the team is targeting guys specifically that aren't considered athletic specimens.

Many teams tend to think the way of McKay. It's why when they see an athletic marvel like Jason Pierre-Paul, sometimes common sense goes by the wayside and they can get easily distracted by his athletic gifts. A good example of this is Matt Jones when the Jags used a #1 pick on him a few years back. And that's not to say either player are bad citizens.

But people tend to think of character as being how many DUIs a guy has, or does he smoke weed in his dorm room, or has he ever beat up his girlfriend, etc. i.e. things that you usually have police involvement.

IMHO, character is more a reflection of a guys work habits and thus his leadership potential. Is the guy a so-called gamer in that he looks/performs better on the field than he does in a workout or practice.

The Falcons under TD seem to focus a lot more on that latter notion of character. I don't think you can say that 90% of teams do the same.


Just to piggy back on this...every team considers all of the aspects. It's really a question of weighting.

It's equivalent to buying a car:

We all want the car that's cool and fast, and safe, and useful, and affordable. We all put different premiums, however, on which thing is the most important. If it's cool, fast, safe, useful and affordable, sure everyone wants that, and that's the top few picks. Soon after, you have to decide if you're going to be lured by the sexy red MG that breaks down often, or you'll go with the 1988 Honda Accord, because it's cheap and dependable.

Everyone wants athletes who play well, measure well, and have good character. However, teams weight the importance of these very very differently.


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 Post subject: Re: I don't think he'll pass the Falcons Filter
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Everyone wants athletes who play well, measure well, and have good character. However, teams weight the importance of these very very differently.

And every GM weighs different attributes when he hires a head coach. I think you guys are simply describing a drafting philosophy. Every team has one of those, and many of them are similar. Calling it a Falcon Filter just sounds a little silly to me, unless there's also a Saints Filter, a Panthers Filter, a Bucs Filter, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: I don't think he'll pass the Falcons Filter
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:26 pm 
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Everyone wants athletes who play well, measure well, and have good character. However, teams weight the importance of these very very differently.

And every GM weighs different attributes when he hires a head coach. I think you guys are simply describing a drafting philosophy. Every team has one of those, and many of them are similar. Calling it a Falcon Filter just sounds a little silly to me, unless there's also a Saints Filter, a Panthers Filter, a Bucs Filter, etc.


I think, though I'm not certain, that one of the FO guys called it that during McKay's era.

The implication is simply that the Falcons grade more on character than other teams, tending to stay away from the ultra talented bad boy, and go more for the community service hard workers. If there's a guy who's been in trouble, he's unlikely to "the "character" aspect of the Falcon's draft assessment" or more shortly said, "the Falcon's filter." But yeah, it's a pretty lame phrase.


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 Post subject: Re: I don't think he'll pass the Falcons Filter
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:10 pm 
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SteveH wrote:
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Everyone wants athletes who play well, measure well, and have good character. However, teams weight the importance of these very very differently.

And every GM weighs different attributes when he hires a head coach. I think you guys are simply describing a drafting philosophy. Every team has one of those, and many of them are similar. Calling it a Falcon Filter just sounds a little silly to me, unless there's also a Saints Filter, a Panthers Filter, a Bucs Filter, etc.

I guess the point is that there is although I doubt Mickey Loomis, Marty Hurney, Mark Dominik, etc. go around calling it that. Every team has their own lens at how they view and assess talent.

Simply calling it the Falcons Filter IMHO is just an easy and convenient way to say "This is the type of player we usually go after" or more often "This isn't the type of player we usually go after."

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 Post subject: Re: I don't think he'll pass the Falcons Filter
PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:51 am 
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Pudge wrote:
Simply calling it the Falcons Filter IMHO is just an easy and convenient way to say "This is the type of player we usually go after" or more often "This isn't the type of player we usually go after."

Ok, that's reasonable. Somehow I thought the term was meant to imply that the Falcons have some kind of moral litmus test for off the field issues that sets them apart from most other teams. I just don't think that's the case.


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