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 Post subject: Kevin Jones becoming one of leagues best
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:55 pm 
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I knew the falcons should have taken him overe jenkins now he is becoming a great back.Wasn't there questions on how fast jones was what happened to that? Jones would have been the great back the falcons needed for a while instead pf TJ Duckett still not proven himself.





RB should create favorable matchup for WRsBy John Clayton
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ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Here are five observations on the Detroit Lions, based on Aug. 1 practices:

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1. Kevin Jones wasn't drafted in the top 10 of the first round like Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers and Mike Williams or Roy Williams, but he is the skilled player who should have the biggest year for the Lions. Fantasy fans might be jumping all over him. After rushing for only 227 yards in this first eight games while trying to shake ankle problems, Jones got hot and finished the season with 906 yards in his final eight games. At that pace, he could be an 1,800-yard running back. From the look of him on the practice field, Jones could be the league's best back this season. For one, he got bigger through a rigorous weight lifting regimen during the offseason. He's 230 pounds and looks faster than a year ago. A former 100-meter sprinter, Jones has stopped his tendency to bounce plays to the outside. He hits holes with power and authority. "Everybody wants to say Joey or one of our receivers is going to take us where we are going to go, but I say the guy is Kevin Jones," Roy Williams said. "If he runs the football, he will bring that safety down to the line of scrimmage and the receivers will get one-on-one matchups."

Despite his late start in 2004, Jones still ended up a Pro Bowl alternate. The lowest selected (No. 30) of the Lions No. 1s, Jones should be the first star to emerge. He is expected to take over Shawn Bryson's role as the third-down receiving back and will be more involved in the passing game.


2. Mike Williams arrived in camp Monday after the brief contract holdout and looks trim and fit. Williams was drafted to create matchup problems. He will play the inside slot in certain packages. At 6-foot-5, 234 pounds, Williams will have a 4- to 6-inch advantage against slot cornerbacks. He's been training in Tampa, Fla. to get ready for the NFL after sitting out a season when the NFL denied his early entry into the NFL draft. "You get over it, and you get ready for where I am now," said Williams, the former USC standout. "I got over that when I first got here for mini-camp. Now, I'm just trying to win." With so many targets around him, it will be hard for Williams to be a 50-catch rookie. The Lions will use a lot of three-receiver sets, but they also like former Cleveland Brown Kevin Johnson as a possession receiver. Williams will be fighting for playing time against him and tight end Marcus Pollard, who is a big inside target for Harrington. Williams will have great value in the red zone. "If you watch highlights of Williams, all you see is him making plays in the red zone," Harrington said. "He's a red zone guy."


3. The Lions felt they added bulk to their offensive line with last year's signing of Damien Woody. Although Woody was a Pro Bowl alternate, he felt he was too bulky. During the offseason, he ballooned to 372 pounds but showed up at camp at 338 pounds. That should create interesting changes and additions in the offense. Because he was a little too heavy last year, Woody pretty much just tried to maul defenders from his right guard spot. Rarely did he pull to his left. That made the Lions primarily a right-handed running team. Woody is moving much better at his lighter weight so he may be asked to pull to his left and add some variety to the running game. At Boston College, Woody was given the nickname, "The Dominator." This year, he has a chance to be a dominator on the run.

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4. Don't figure the Lions to be the big player in the Ty Law sweepstakes. Although they have worked him out twice and team president Matt Millen would love to sign him, the Lions won't outbid the Jets for Law's services. Dre' Bly is a two-time Pro Bowler, but Fernando Bryant didn't have a great season in his first year with the Lions. The Lions have other young options, but the signing of veteran R.W. McQuarters could be the steal of the offseason for the Lions. McQuarters is being used as a slot cornerback in nickel packages. He could be moved to free safety if needed. Plus, he's a decent punt returner. Steve Mariucci drafted him when he was with the 49ers. McQuarters' additional value is he has been in the receiver-rich NFC North. He has had years of matching up against the division's best receivers. Though he won't be asked to start, McQuarters is a valuable tool to rely on when the Lions are drawing up game plans.


5. The biggest question mark along the offensive line is right tackle Kelly Butler. Let's say this. He's a big question mark. At 6-7, 330-pounds, Butler has the body to be a good right tackle. He shows good power on run plays, but he tends to get a little high on pass-rush plays, which may hurt him when he matches up against quick defensive ends. The Lions elected not to re-sign longtime right tackle Stockar McDougle. They know that former 49ers right tackle Kelly Gragg is just a phone call away if needed. The Lions want to try Butler out during the preseason to see how he holds up. He didn't play a down last season after being selected as a fourth-round choice from Purdue. The Lions liked the fact he graded out at 80 percent consistently in games at Purdue, which ran a good passing offense. Still, he's raw. The Lions have to make a quick decision on his future. They signed Kyle Kosier to play right tackle if he fails.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.


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 Post subject: Interesting thoughts
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:20 pm 
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The debate between Mike jenkins vs Kevin Jones will go on.The Falcons needed a receiver more tan a running back BUT do you take a receiver just because he is a receiver or a more highly rated player in Kevin Jones?Jenkins has alot of potential and Jones is scratching his.We don't know how much longer Dunn will be a falcon and duckett has been unreliable.I have not looked to see who the upcoming running backs are in this draft but more than likely the falcons will be drafting so low because of a good record and the need to fill other areas that running back probably won't be addressed till the 3rd round.I would prefer to have kevin jones instead of a 3rd rounder and Jenkins still needs to prove he can be the receiver we drafted him for to be a game changer.We know Jones already is.


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If we would have taken Jones he would have his butt placed firmly down the depth chart. When Rich McKay said he's a big Warrick Dunn guy that sounded like a down payment on him being the starting HB until his time is up. Now, I do think Jones will amount to a better pro than Jenkins, but I don't think we would have taken him. In hindsight, keeping our 2nd round pick and getting Keary Colbert may have been the better move, but management seems set on bigger sized wideouts.


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I too am another player that firmly believed that we should have taken Kevin Jones at #30 last year. He is too good a back.

Sure, we didn't really NEED a RB at the time, but considering the age of Dunn and the fact that Duckett had yet to emerge (and still has not) as a future feature back, taking Jones would have been a good pick.

I have little doubt in my mind Jones will be the much better pro player than Jenkins. I'm still not sold on Jenkins. I've never really viewed him as anything more than a #2 wideout. I'm less skeptical of him now than I was last April, but I still don't think he's going to be the WR we need, in that he's going to be Vick's new go-to target and a player that defensive coordinators are going to have difficulty slowing down. And I'm not sure Roddy White is that either, but I would say White is probably more so than Jenkins.

Considering that this might be Dunn's last year if Duckett makes the necessary strides, I still believe that Jones would have been the smartest pick. Jones is likely going to have multiple 1000-yard seasons in the NFL. I'm not sure how many 60-catch seasons that Jenkins will have, which I think is the WR equivalent.

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I'm not sure how many 60-catch seasons that Jenkins will have, which I think is the WR equivalent


Well, until Vick can improve his accuracy a bit I'm not sure how many of our receivers will have 60 catch seasons. I happen to like Jenkins myself and comparing him to Jones is really comparing apples to oranges. The one thing Jenkins has going for him is his height. Vick isn't the tallest of qb's and having big guys on the book ends will only help him down the road IMO.


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