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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:00 am 
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What good OL and DL free agents are there this year...that won't get tagged and we can afford? For instance I'd like Hardy but don't think we will give him the money he'd want.


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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:42 pm 
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Haven't looked to see if either lists are different. But you can expect Alex Mack, Greg Hardy, Branden Albert, Eugene Monroe, Jared Veldheer, Michael Johnson, Anthony Spencer, B.J. Raji, Lamarr Houston, and Henry Melton to be the most likely players to get tagged by their respective teams. So pretty much every one else is available...

http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014
http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014
http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014

http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/defensive-end/
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/ ... ve-tackle/

http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014
http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014
http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014
http://www.overthecap.com/freeagents.ph ... &Year=2014

http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/tackle/
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/guard/
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/center/

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:53 pm 
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You think the Bengals will tag Michael Johnson again two years in a row? He did not look as good as he did when he was playing next to Geno Atkins. They just payed Dunlap and they have Wallace Gilberry who had 7 sacks this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:50 pm 
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Who we should probably be looking at:

OT
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Jordan Gross - OT, Panthers - He is getting up there in years (34), but is still a top tackle. If Panthers go with tagging Hardy, he should hit FA. I'm not entirely sure the Panthers can even afford to tag Hardy, as you're link shows: they only have 40 players under contract for 2014 and are already at 118-119m with VERY few players that can save them much money by releasing (Steve Smith, Charles Godfrey, Greg Olsen top the list with only 2m).

Anthony Collins - OT, Bengals - Still relatively young (28), was part of a pretty stout line in Cincy. Probably wouldn't get tagged by Cincy even if they don't use it on MJ.

Guard
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Our list of options here is pretty limited, although both KC guards are due to hit FA - Jon Asamoah & Geoff Schwartz. Both young and part of a strong OL. I would be glad with either being here.

Safety
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Cutting DeCoud would bring us 3.000.000 in savings, and I think this is a foregone conclusion (I'm surprised he is still here actually). Anyone would be an upgrade, although its definitely going to be rough picking up a competent FS.

LB
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I see us continuing to develop our talent that we have picked up in Worrilow and Bartu so no big signings here..

DE
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I think we might go for a BIG signing here if anyone hits the market. If Hardy makes it, we will be deep in the running to sign him, probably breaking the bank in the process.

DT
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Re-signing Babs and Peters will probably be our first priorities, and this is a pretty saturated DT market at the moment.

Falcons Cap (based off of Overthecap)
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119m dedicated to 2014 (salary cap expected by be between 126-128m). - 7m cap room
7m in cap relief with the retirement of TG
4.5m in cap relief by cutting Samuel
3m in cap relief by cutting DeCoud
2m in cap relief by cutting Nicholas
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Around 23.5 million in total cap space. I'd expect us to probably restructure Blalock's deal and possibly extending Roddy to create some additional room. Add in plenty of smaller cuts (Snelling, Dent, Antone Smith, Cliff Matthews) and we are in a good spot for make a good amount of signings.

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:35 pm 
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Gross has already indicated that he'll either play for the Panthers or retire.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... next-year/

The issue with Collins is that Cincinnati is probably going to want to re-up him to a long-term deal because Whitworth is 32 and nearing the end of the road. If they think Collins can be that long-term option, and here's been there for 6 years, so they probably have a good idea if he is, then he'll likely stick there.

If the Falcons really want to restructure a deal, it will be Matt Ryan's contract. He is due a $12 million option bonus on the 5th day of hte league year. That is going to basically be a $2.4 million extra hit on their cap this year once it goes into effect ($12M prorated over 5 years = $2.4M). The Falcons might be smart to defer that bonus to next year, and subsequently guarantee his $9.5 million base salary this year for both skill and injury (It's only currently guaranteed for injury) as. That would be an easy way to save $2.4 million against this year's cap.

Or of course you can do the tried and true method of just lowering Ryan's base salary and turning that money into bonus money. For example, if you cut Ryan's base salary to $4 million, the $5.5 million difference ($9.5M-$4M=$5.5M) would then be prorated over the remaining 5 years of his deal as $1.1M, meaning you save about $4.4 million against this year's cap.

Arthur Blank has said no "splash" free agents, so it seems like the focus of the Falcons will be re-signing players like Hawley, Peters, Babineaux, McClain, and then maybe getting whoever is left a week or two into free agency like we've steadily done the past few years.

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
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My guess is we will sign the third best lineman off of another team and expect him to be our #1 pass rusher :?

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:29 pm 
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Pudge wrote:
Arthur Blank has said no "splash" free agents, so it seems like the focus of the Falcons will be re-signing players like Hawley, Peters, Babineaux, McClain, and then maybe getting whoever is left a week or two into free agency like we've steadily done the past few years.


None of our FA's will be getting big deals, and will probably get offered more from us than any team in the NFL would be willing to give. I don't buy the "splash" free agent talk; if a dominant, young pass rusher hits the market, he will be a Falcon.

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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:10 am 
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I think the Falcons could make a move at OT, G, DT, or Safety. I don't see them going after a DE in free agency.

That said, our DL is spotty at best. I'm still on board for making a switch to a 3-4. Worrilow is a beast of a pass rusher. Bartu and Spoon aren't so bad either. Couple that with Biermann moving to OLB, and you have a pretty good 3-4 linebacking group. But I still say that if we do that, the big acquisition will need to be a NT.

I also still say that our 2nd round pick should be a guard. There should be three road grading guards coming out this year, and at least one of them should make it to our pick in the 2nd round.

I'm still quite fond of the idea of trading down in the first to acquire two first round picks, and using both of them on linemen. (perhaps even the 2nd rounder as well)


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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:32 am 
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RobertAP wrote:
I think the Falcons could make a move at OT, G, DT, or Safety. I don't see them going after a DE in free agency.

That said, our DL is spotty at best. I'm still on board for making a switch to a 3-4. Worrilow is a beast of a pass rusher. Bartu and Spoon aren't so bad either. Couple that with Biermann moving to OLB, and you have a pretty good 3-4 linebacking group. But I still say that if we do that, the big acquisition will need to be a NT.

I also still say that our 2nd round pick should be a guard. There should be three road grading guards coming out this year, and at least one of them should make it to our pick in the 2nd round.

I'm still quite fond of the idea of trading down in the first to acquire two first round picks, and using both of them on linemen. (perhaps even the 2nd rounder as well)

Personally, I'd like the Falcons to make a move at offensive tackle (i.e. Michael Oher) and draft a guard like you said. Re-upping Peters and Babineaux would be a priority, but we also need to add depth which we lack in both offensive and defensive lines. It's too early to mock an offseason / draft at this point, but I would like for the Falcons to somehow acquire a stud pass rusher in the first (I do not Clowney will fall to the #6 pick, so we will have to trade up for him if he is truly who we want) and acquire one of Gabe Jackson or Cyril Richardson in the second round.


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 Post subject: Re: Free Agents
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:12 pm 
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I don't really anticipate the Falcon's being to terribly active in free agency. The two big "splash" free agents turned out to be skunks (Robinson + Edwards) and one could argue that both Osi & S-Jax are going to go down the same path. Dimitroff just isn't all that great at finding top tier talent in free agency.

So far Dimitroff's best moves have largely come from UFA's and finding a couple diamonds in the rough (Bartu, Worrilow, etc...). It appears that Dimitroff may have hit a home run with Trufant and at least a double with Alford.

So, I won't expect much with the Falcons in early free agency. Maybe later on or after the June cuts. I do expect the Falcon's to be active in regard to the draft. Whether that be to move up or down in the top part of the draft.

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