Cyril wrote:All you've wanted is for Ryan to have more longer passes and play wide open. I don't think Ryan wants to and I don't care what people say, nobody can make Ryan throw long!!
He loves the dink and dunk and always has.
One of the benefits of watching the All 22 each week is seeing how rarely the Falcons receivers run routes beyond 15 yards. If its 2nd & 8, more often than not our receivers are running 7-8 yards down field, turning, and waiting for Ryan to throw the ball. Thats purely the product of play design, thus the province of the offensive coordinator.
I agree that Ryan is inherently cautious. He'll NEVER be what we often term a "gunslinger" but I'm not asking him to be. I just would like to see 3-5 plays in the 1st quarter/half that are designed to go down the field. Most weeks its been 1, maybe 2 during the entire 1st half. Deep passing early simply hasn't existed in our offense outside the Bills/Bucs (Week 7) games. Trust me, I've been keeping track since Week 8. Ryan is dead last in the league in terms of 15+ yard pass attempts per AdvancedNFLStats with 12%. Pretty much every other Top 10 QB is throwing between 18-27%.
AngryJohnny51 wrote:Hard to throw deep when you have receivers who can't get seperation and an O-line that is giving him zero protection. when White and Jones were healthy last year, he seemed to have no problem pulling the trigger. How soon we forget. Can't blame him for loving dinking and dunking when he's getting killed back there. Plus, the short quick pass is an extention to our (lack of) running game.
Again I think people overexaggerate the lacking quality of the OL. Is it bad? Yes, it marks winning hard. Is it terrible? No, in the sense that winning isn't impossible. And the rhetoric I keeping reading/hearing is one that seems to suggest "Well, what can the coaches do with this line?"
And I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. Ryan is getting hit more, but not by a huge degree. This year the "official" tally is 75 QB hits hits thru 14 games (9th most in league). Last year it was 79 in all 16 games, 6th most in league. Last year Ryan was 31st out of 39 QBs in terms of deep (15+ yards) shots at 17.6%. He was 24.7% in the playoffs BTW.
Here are the Top 10 teams this year in terms of how many hits their QB has taken and percentage of deep throws:
1. Browns - 103 hits, 19.9% deep
2. Texans - 90, 17.6%
3. Colts - 87, 22.1%
4. Jaguars - 81, 14.5%
5. Bills - 81, 19.4%
6. Cardinals - 79, 22.3%
7. Jets - 78, 25.5%
8. Redskins - 76, 19.4%
9. Falcons - 75, 12.1%
10. Dolphins - 74, 16.9%
For the record, if Ryan threw 3 more deep throws per game, his number would be around 19.5%. If he threw 4 more deep throws per game,it would be around 22.0%.
If the beating Ryan has taken this year is "too much" but I hate to say it, but he needs to toughen up. League average a year ago was around 65. He's on pace to get hit about 85.7 to es this year over 16 games, slightly more than how much he got hit last year over 18 games (83). Look, I'm not saying I want Ryan to get hit that many times, but its far from excessive.
And I'll again stress the not having WRs that can separate is entirely the fault of the coaching staff for not developing the backups on the roster, or not stressing to their GM that they needed one (I've been saying it for 2 years)