A few points…
Wease, you are talking about PB21. He was pretty over the top though every once in a while he would nail something pretty good. Birdman and Birdbrain both really make some salient points and know the game pretty well but their "war"--primarily continued by the former and somehow unignorable by the latter got beyond tiresome.
1. To be honest, I enjoyed the BirdBrain-Birdman beef, it made for some very entertaining posts. It's why I never intervened in it. Not to mention, at least on this board both gave it as good as they took it, so it was hard to step in without seeming like I was taking a side. I obviously agreed with BB's viewpoint on most of their arguments (seeing how they were anti-Vick), but I didn't think it was right to step in and be like "Birdman you gotta leave" and have the perception be that I booted someone for disagreeing with me.
It's one of the reasons why I let the PB21 thing linger. But then I was prepped to warn him for his trolling, and realized it was the 8th time he had received a warning (for basically the same thing) over 4 years, and I figured if that wasn't enough to boot someone, then what would be? So he got banned.
On the friends/foe list, it's a nice feature. But the thing I think you discover is that someone who you may disagree with now, is someone that 6 months or a year from now, you may absolutely agree with. You don't grow by ignoring someone.
My issue with MF is that he’s admitted to not watching games this season, such as the Miami game and relies on stats to make his own judgements.
2. I sort of bristle at the idea of "Well, you don't watch the games, so therefore you don't know what you're talking about…"
That sort of attitude was essentially what compelled me to stop posting at the Roost, because a few boisterous individuals seemed to attack my posts because of that.
It's a straw man argument, and I don't like it. Obviously if someone watches all the games, they probably are more informed, but it doesn't mean that if they do not, their opinions are invalid.
The other thing is that MF1 may have not watched one game, but proceeded to post something about it just from looking at the box score. And you may assume that he hasn't watched any other game, when in fact he has, therefore the "You don't watch the games so you don't know what you're talking about!" attitude is less informed than his opinion from that 1 game.
Pudge has made the statement that the OL is overrated. While I still believe that's crazy talk, I don't think Pudge is a dumb mfer for saying it.
No he was just misguided at that moment (:
3. I still want to clarify this issue. I think OL play is overrated by people on this board. Because I think there has been this attitude on this board that the Falcons can't win games because they have a bad OL, and that is BS. If that was the case, then how can we explain the Falcons going 25-10 over the past 2 seasons with an equally bad OL?
But when I say that, people automatically, say, "No Pudge, our OL was better in 2011 and 2012 than it is in 2013."
And I say "No friendo, it wasn't." You only perceive
it to be because the team won in those years. Your perception is that the OL was good enough
because the team
won. Now the perception is that this OL is "terrible" or whatever because suddenly the team
My point isn't that the OL doesn't matter. But the perception of some on this board is that it's the deciding factor to why/how the team wins or loses, and it's not. That's why it is overrated by those individuals.
Something worth considering…If you combine sacks, pressures, and hurries allowed in games, then here are how the Falcons games rank:
1. vs. Bills - 19 (34 offensive points scored)
2. vs. Rams - 17 (24 points scored)
3. vs. Patriots - 16 (23 points scored)
4. vs. Saints (week 1) - 14 (17 points)
4. vs. Cardinals - 14 (13 points)
4. vs. Saints (week 12) - 14 (13 points)
7. vs. Seahawks - 11 (10 points)
7. vs. Buccaneers (week 11) - 11 (28 points)
9. vs. Jets - 8 (28 points)
9. vs. Packers - 8 (14 points)
11. vs. Dolphins - 7 (23 points)
12. vs. Bucs (week 7) - 5 (24 points)
13. vs. Panthers - 5 (10 points)
There's really no trend to suggest that the worse the Falcons OL plays, the worst the offense gets if we're judging by points scored. In fact, there is actually a very minor positive
correlation, in that the more times Ryan is hit/pressured, the more points the offense scores.
It's just easier for people to write off this season due to bad OL play, poor decisions in the past in regards to OL, rather than really look at the issues that have changed from previous years, which really boil down to turnovers and the fact that this offense can't function unless it has two or more Pro Bowl caliber WRs/TEs healthy and playing well. If you're going to boil things to 1 or 2 issues, those are the big 2.