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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:42 am 
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It's not fair.

And, we know, it really shouldn't matter.

But Atlanta -- the city, not the team -- doesn't deserve a playoff victory over the New York Giants on Sunday.

It has nothing to do with football. It's deeper than that.

If the New York Yankees are the standard for excellence in baseball, Atlanta is the epitome of the bottom of the barrel when it comes to fan support.

Hence, the Atlanta Falcons shouldn't be allowed to win and reward some of the worst fans in the country. They just don't get it. They are both missing in action and simply not passionate enough to appreciate their team winning in the NFL playoffs and moving on to the next round.

Giants fans -- even with a fresh Super Bowl in their memories after the 2007 season -- are living and dying with their team. Football is a part of their lifestyle, it's who they are. On Sunday, every single moment of the game will be pure agony until the clock shows all zeroes and the Giants have secured the victory.

Your typical Atlanta fan -- who is probably from another city since so few are actually from ATL -- will be preoccupied with something else. They might not even be sure what time the game is on.

In fact, at some point, they might ask a friend -- filled with sweet tea -- at a pork-saturated barbeque, "Are the Falcons playing today?"

Pathetic.

But it's Atlanta, known as Hotlanta.

It's not for their passion when it comes to sports, just the weather. Oh yes, it gets hot down there.

But when it comes to sports, no city is as cold to warm up to its home teams. And it's just not when it comes to the NFL and the Falcons.

All of their teams have suffered from terrible support.

Just ask the Hawks. Atlanta's young and exciting basketball team has had problems selling tickets over the years -- even during a pretty thrilling playoff run a few years back. It's not like they play in a dump on the bad side of town.

The Philips Arena downtown is sweet, a cool place to see a game and be a part of the city as well. Yet, on most night you can get a section to yourself.

Even back in the old Omni days when I covered the Knicks for the Daily News, there were always more Knicks fans in attendance than Hawks fans -- and they had Dominique Wilkins, the Human Highlight Film. Shame more didn't see him play in person.

Sadly, there always seemed to be empty seats at Turner Field when the Braves were in the playoffs as well. You still have to wonder how fans got tired of the Braves winning. They had the best pitching staff in Major League Baseball for a decade and won a World Series back in the '90s. Fans should not have missed a pitch during that run.

Worse is the lack of passion the fans showed after an epic Braves collapse this season. Looking like a shoo-in most of the season, the Braves, who were 8½ games up in the National League wild-card race to start September, gave up their postseason spot on the last night of the season. The Braves went 9-18 in the final month, including a five-game losing streak to end the season. It allowed the St. Louis Cardinals to get in instead en route to winning the World Series.

Heads should have rolled. Instead, Braves first-year manager Fredi Gonzalez wasn't under fire from the fan base and will be back this coming season. Again, most probably didn't even notice.

Enter the NHL.

It's bad enough Atlanta got another hockey team, the Thrashers, after losing one already, the Flames in 1980. But it happened again -- the Thrashers are now in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Winnipeg? How embarrassing. Atlanta is once again hockey-less. Why? Terrible fan support.

The NHL wanted to believe Atlanta is a major-league city, a city that could support all four major sports. But it can't. Atlanta is now the first city in the NHL's modern history to lose two hockey teams. So sad.

That's why it would be a waste for the NFL gods to allow the city of Atlanta to lukewarmly enjoy a postseason win.

The city and its lame fans simply don't deserve it.

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Fun Gus you are one of my favorite posters but please don't turn into the next PB. I'll be very upset if you turn into that nonsensical jerk.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:08 am 
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Fun Gus you are one of my favorite posters but please don't turn into the next PB. I'll be very upset if you turn into that nonsensical jerk.



just wanted to show the southern branch of FalcFans exactly how were viewed by New Yorkers :P

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I've never been a fan of, "Atlanta." The city seems to be run by complete morons. The epitome of this was the whole idea of re-branding the city, "the ATL." City planning in Atlanta is a joke. At one point, Atlanta hosted Comdex, E3, and a few other world-famous conferences. But because the city is such a joke, all of that is gone. I think that most people, even if they won't admit to it, aren't very happy with, "Atlanta." This extends to the teams that make Atlanta their home.

For instance, which football team in Georgia is the most beloved? The Atlanta Falcons, Ga Tech, or UGA? Duh... UGA. UGA is located in Athens, well away from Atlanta.

Again, the problem is not, "sports fans in Georgia." The problem is, "the ATL."


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I've never been a fan of, "Atlanta." The city seems to be run by complete morons. The epitome of this was the whole idea of re-branding the city, "the ATL." City planning in Atlanta is a joke. At one point, Atlanta hosted Comdex, E3, and a few other world-famous conferences. But because the city is such a joke, all of that is gone. I think that most people, even if they won't admit to it, aren't very happy with, "Atlanta." This extends to the teams that make Atlanta their home.

For instance, which football team in Georgia is the most beloved? The Atlanta Falcons, Ga Tech, or UGA? Duh... UGA. UGA is located in Athens, well away from Atlanta.

Again, the problem is not, "sports fans in Georgia." The problem is, "the ATL."



I'll try to defend 'the ATL' even though much of what you say is very true...

Is the city run by corrupt idiots? Yes. But, what major metropolitian city isn't? That's a pretty weak defense, I understand..But it's not like I've seen anything on the horizon that promises a difference in that regard. This city's municipal leadership slipped from the Good Ol Boys to the Good Ol Bro's, but both of them were just carbon copies of inadequacies, IMO.

I can understand why UGA is more popular because there are still plenty of people who remember the city without pro football. They have been playing football since the 1800's up there in Athens. It's hard to overlook 120 years of tradition. This will always be the case here.

As far as losing conventions (especially the niche 'electronics and computer' ones) while it's true we have had our share of setbacks, about the time Comdex and E3 were bailing on this city ( much because of thier own decline) we were hosting a little party called the Olympic Games..Unfortunately that didn't 'work out too well'. At least we werent Salt Lake City, though! This city still hosts some pretty decent mega conventions, floral, hair and fashion and the like..

An interesting sidenote for those livin outside Hotlanta. This city did not allow retail beer sales on the Sabbath citywide until just this past weekend. This is a result of the community, local lawmakers and policy advocates vs the Southern Baptists Church. The reason the law finally got changed after 2 centuries( or at least a part if it ) is because of the impact this stupid law had on attracting convention business. Beleive it or not, being able to drive to a local liquor store and get yer hooch is a factor in why certain Southern cities are chosen over others. My local rep had to splain this to us downtowners in the push to get the initiative on the ballot.

I never thought I would see the day that I could pick up a 6 pack on the way to a Falcons Game, but then I never thought I would see the Lotto here, either.... 8-)

In terms of 'deserves', here is what I would LOVE to see. Take the decrepit Underground Atlanta Complex, and do what Cincinnatti is doing: lease the property on the cheap to Harrah's, or Trump, etc. Let them build a casino right downtown next to Five Points station. It's already a 'gamble' at best there after the sun goes down, and while there may be some 'undesirable' blight, how much worse could it get? You would attract ALOT more conventions with a casino, and it will piss off all the Injuns in the region and maybe make thier crappy casino's 'compete' with a power player in the Southeast...But I dont see that happening anytime soon. Damn Baptists. :whistle:

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